Hacking into Zoe's CANbus

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noICE
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folder Mi 26. Aug 2015, 19:13
jmeijer hat geschrieben:And what was really nasty is that the wakeup unlocked the charger cable!!
Could one connect with the i907 once the car did shut down?
I do know that there are people out there securing their OBD (preventing car-theft) with Reed-switches so they can disconnect two data lines by placing a small magnet somewhere.
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jmeijer
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folder Mi 26. Aug 2015, 19:27
I was able to partially wake up the car and release the cable with the i907. Of course to do that, it had to be plugged in (D'uh :-) ) and I had to be inside the locked car pressing buttons.

Monitoring what was happing, I was later able though to replay the same traffic with a connected ELM and that could be done from outside the car if the ELM was plugged in and switched on.

The reed switch scenario seems to be aimed at avoiding people breaking into your car and then do nasty things through the connector. I have not been able (have not been trying!) to i.e. start the car. But the cable was released!
Jeroen - ZOE Q210 Nov 2013 - PV powered - CanZE co-developer http://canze.fisch.lu

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noICE
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folder Mi 26. Aug 2015, 21:09
That's what I mean, you can avoid anyone to use any devices connected to the OBD port (by opening 2 wires) with such a reed switch.

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jmeijer
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I am very happy to say that today, the team member that is working very hard on the "App" succeeded in getting data from the car using only an Android device and a "proper" (KW902) dongle. This really brings the entire display stuff into the realm of cheap, consumer oriented hardware. The proof of concept I showed earlier in that video is now "App"-able.

I am very excited about this. Also, the international team effort is fun!

More to follow!
Jeroen - ZOE Q210 Nov 2013 - PV powered - CanZE co-developer http://canze.fisch.lu

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noICE
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folder Sa 29. Aug 2015, 23:23
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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jmeijer
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folder So 6. Sep 2015, 16:33
Sneak previews!! No mockups, this is real data! (through some labels are wrong)

Start Icon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ELcZXj ... sp=sharing

Main menu (very silly, now two screens that two different people work on)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13xiu1i ... sp=sharing

This will be the charging screen. Wrong labels, just a few fields, but this is real data (i.e. the max allowed charge current as communicated by the charger through the pilot signal)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NMzZ-c ... sp=sharing

Some random meters. Note my foot on the pedal and the wheel hard right.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IFtrX4 ... sp=sharing
Zuletzt geändert von jmeijer am Mo 7. Sep 2015, 13:59, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
Jeroen - ZOE Q210 Nov 2013 - PV powered - CanZE co-developer http://canze.fisch.lu

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Wooooho, great to see this ongoing development! Thank you!
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folder So 6. Sep 2015, 18:50
Hi, gutes Projekt!
Mich würde vor allem ein Datenlogger für die Ladevorgänge (Datum Start/Ende, Kilometerstand, Ladeposition, Stromstärke/Leistung, geladene Energie) und ein Nutzungs-Log/Fahrtenbuch mit tatsächlichem Kilometerstand und Geodäten interessieren. Wenn man dann noch ein "Tesla-ähnliches" Display für Tacho/Energieverbrauch machen könnte, wäre das spitze.
Gruß

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jmeijer
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Im Gegensatz dazu würde Ich gerne eine Ferrari haben! :?
Jeroen - ZOE Q210 Nov 2013 - PV powered - CanZE co-developer http://canze.fisch.lu

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jmeijer
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@DiLeGreen: Thank you, appreciated!
Jeroen - ZOE Q210 Nov 2013 - PV powered - CanZE co-developer http://canze.fisch.lu
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