Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon harlem24 » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 19:46

As Hubert pointed out, 32A three phase CEE is quite easy to get in Germany, even 63A CEE is not uncommon, if you look at the crowdfunding charging network we are building at the moment.
Every car repair shop or even farmers have those plugs.
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon mlie » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 19:47

Duud40, cee32 industrial Plug with 400V 32A three phase is Quite Common at least in northern Germany. A Case with one 10kW Module delivered, upgradeable to up to Four Modules Would bei interesting, Depending on the price. 40kW Would bei interesting on the 43kW Crowdfunding Charging Points and for Tesla drivers.
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon duud40 » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 19:48

You're very enthusiastic about that 43kw figure. The challenges for that kind of AC charging station are not in generating the pilot signal. The challenges lie elsewhere:)

Charging curves ? What do you mean ?

Discount for 10kw charger in 10kw housing or upgradeable to 20kw ?
I am planning a group buy for the forum. The minimum would be 10 chargers.
For that kind of order we could reduce transport cost and also product price.
I am waiting for Guy to accept my proposal for an official group buy. This needs to be transparent and the values are not exactly small.
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon duud40 » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 19:57

mlie hat geschrieben:
Duud40, cee32 industrial Plug with 400V 32A three phase is Quite Common at least in northern Germany. A Case with one 10kW Module delivered, upgradeable to up to Four Modules Would bei interesting, Depending on the price. 40kW Would bei interesting on the 43kW Crowdfunding Charging Points and for Tesla drivers.


My apologies then, we find such plugs in Romania as well but the available power to the location where the plug is fitted is rarely enough. DC chargers suck the whole rated power for some time before they taper off.
Even though the plug is there, the system overall consumes some of the installed power so you rarely have 20kw available.
A 40kw charger will be minimum 50kg. I'm not sure it is portable anymore.
We could work with the producer to make a wall charger with 4 modules but again, it's getting pretty big.
What is wrong with the floor mounted stations ? Those can be used for more than 20kw.
We're working on a solar combined solution.
I don't know how you guys have that much power available, the rest of the world is complaining about available power to the point where a combined grid + solar solution is viable cost wise.
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon Blue shadow » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 19:59

Curve for the japan leaf and euro leaf with the 20kw setec...leaf spy app

20 kw charger reduced to 10 = price of the 10kw ...

Will the chademo cable do the 40 kw dc current?

In the moment there are some station without any costs..
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon duud40 » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 20:04

So you want charging current, voltage and SOC every 10% ?
Yes, connector is good for the entire chademo rating (approx 60kw).

20kw charger for the price of 10kw charger ? - you mean with just one module installed ? Is this a magic trick again ?
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon duud40 » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 20:07

Blue shadow hat geschrieben:

In the moment there are some station without any costs..

What do you mean ?
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon Blue shadow » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 20:09

It depends of what is module worth for you...no trick...

In the moment It would make no sence for me to buy half of a 20kw charger ...no cargo space left

It is important that you can reduce the power to 22 kw or 11 kw...

You can charge for free...you can fill the battery gratis.
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon duud40 » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 20:17

You mean the price I buy it for ?
The added value is not what you might think and shipping is via air from China.
I presume there will be some reductions in cost for 10pcs or more in a single transport but it's probably going to be 20% less than what I said.
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Re: Vorstellung SETEC 10KW mobiler CHAdeMO Lader

Beitragvon DiLeGreen » Fr 11. Nov 2016, 20:46

I think blue shadow wants to know the price for the 20 kW Charger (case), but with only the 10 kW unit, not full 20 kW. So he can see the difference (which is then the price for one 10 kW unit).
And he wants to inform you that there are public charging points where you can charge for free, so the payment implementation is not that necessary. As far that's what i understand...

By the way, im also interested in the price for a stationary 40 kW charger with CCS2 + Chademo. I don't want to buy, just to know.
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